Sounds interesting. Perhaps we should take a lesson from post-colonial India and give the Muslims North Dakota.
Seriously,I am absolutely sure that we were put here to get along. But as long as we have individuals from each religion Screaming "mis-treatment", "Foul", etc., we are doing nothing to "get along".

Here is an exam-ple of a quote from the Trib article today.
"Such vitriol bubbling up from a few incidents has drawn undue attention from non-Muslims, according to Atia Ibrahim, a computer security specialist who lives in Eden Prairie.

"If a vegetarian refused to scan hamburger, that wouldn't make the front page," she said. "But because the word 'Muslims' comes up, suddenly it becomes news."

The problem here is that the Vegetarian would not work at mickey d's if it was a problem and my jewish ex-wife would not be handling non-kosher meat if it were a problem. If I am Hindu, you would never find me working in the meat industry anywhere. But "because the word 'Muslims' comes up," SUDDENLY IT IS DISCIMINATION SOMEHOW.

"IF YOU CAN'T DO THE WORK, DO NOT (I REPEAT) DO NOT TAKE THE JOB" AND if you are a business that hires employees that Can't do the work, WELL GOOD LUCK ON YOUR BOTTOM LINE!!

One disturbing piece of information in today's article in the Trib is that one of our (Minnesota's) public colleges has put in a foot washing basin to accommodate its Muslim students. I wonder if they'd put in a holy water font for Roman Catholics? I imagine our tax dollars are paying for that, instead of helping our college students fund their educations.

Abdinoor Ahmed Dolal, a taxi driver from Minneapolis writes in today's commentary that, "We believe that there is middle ground in this issue. We propose that a pilot program be implemented at the airport making the alcohol issue a "special call." Special call is an existing voluntary program for taxicab operators who do not mind smoking in their cabs. If a passenger requests a smoking cab, the dispatcher sends for a special-call cab; the whole process takes less than five minutes. This designation would allow the few who adhere to the strict dictates of their religion to opt out while permitting the rest to carry the alcohol-carrying passengers. Such a program would be advantageous to all."

The law would be all over us if we decided who we were and weren't going to serve. If being in the same space as a woman is an issue for some drivers, are they then going to refuse women as cab fares?

Where is this going to end up? Minnesotans need to collectively stand up and say "enough is enough", before we all wake up one day to find our way of life and culture gone forever.

And what exactly do, "We," do?

Is it attending service on Saturday at our local synagogue as some Jewish Americans do?

Is it celebrating Chinese New Year as some Chinese Americans and other Asian Americans do?

Is it eating haggis as some Scottish Americans do?

Is it observing Good Friday as some Catholic Americans do?

Is it joining the KKK as some close-minded, racist Americans do?

The comments of this bozo only show how ignorant and narrow-minded he/she is. "these People" are New Americans going thru adjustments, just like your ancestors. Look around, we're WORKING; we hold advanced degrees, we own businesses, we love and respect the community we live in. I'm a proud Somali Minnesotan, an MBA holder, fluent in 6 language, gainfully employed and a tax payer. I appreciate everything that America has let me work for, and my American Family and friends; just not the bigots that use any little incident as an excuse to show their true colors with comments like "go home". WE ARE HOME, get used to it. Peace

A vegetarian who refused to scan hamburger would almost certainly not make the front page of the StarTrib, other than as part of the next month's unemployment statistics. It's not that the word "Muslims" came up, it's that someone took a job, refuses to perform it fully, and expects to keep the job.

In this case, we also have a certain amount of confusion on the part of some members of the Islamic community. Scanning a package of bacon for a Lutheran is not abetting a sin, while scanning a supply of ammunition for someone planning a bank heist would be. That is because crimes like theft and murder are sins, wrong no matter who commits them.

Eating a few rashers of bacon at lunch, with some potatoes fried in the drippings, accompanied by a good beer, is not a sin for most folks. I don't even think it ranks as a sin in Islam, although it's certainly against the rules of normal life. (I've read commentary that indicates eating the flesh of wild pork in times of extreme need would be allowed, while swine raised for the table would be more offensive than game. Don't recall the details offhand, but Islamic scholars can split some pretty fine hairs.)

There are quite a few things I feel strongly about, some of them on religious grounds. Outside of a very short list of things that are universally seen as wrong, things that we consider sinful, I'm not likely to interfere with anyone else doing those things. Particularly not on company time when I'm working for someone else.

Van

Fly planes in buildings? OK!
Behead journalists? OK!
Blow up busses full of grandmothers and kids? OK!
Sell bacon? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!

I am not sure I understand this "religion of peace."

Geez, folks, am I the only person with the nerve to say I'm prejudiced against Muslims? I am! They seem to embody all the things that I am ready to fight against, and embrace many things I feel are antithetical to what America stands for.
I don't like Muslims for a number of reasons, and here are some, in no particular order.
1. I don't appreciate ethnic groups coming to America and refusing to assimilate. Muslims, Hispanics - whatever... Our common language is an important reason we are 'one' people. I'm tired of speaking to people and having them mumble 'no English.' How the heck did this happen in America?? Don't we need to give negative feedback to banks, cable companies, soap powder manufacturers and every other business whose customer service recording says "press 1 for English, and 2 for Spanish"??!!
2. I don't like Muslims because I believe in women's equality. This business with burquas or hajibs or whatever makes my blood boil. What are they saying - that the sight of an 8-year old's hair is going to make some man (or men) have uncontrollable sexual impulses? Does an 12-year old have to be 'modest'? What a crock. You know, they're rioting in France over this issue. And they think that women can't drive? If someone told me I couldn't drive I'd slap him upside the head!
3) I find shariah to be antithetical to the American way of life. Here our founding fathers wisely kept religion out of politics, and we strive to be tolerant of religions not our own. (There are notable exceptions - it seems that extremists of all religions have so much in common!) But the flip side of this tenant is that while we expect tolerance from others, we must be tolerant. So, my friends, if my religion supposedly says I can't eat pork, I must respect the right of others to eat it, and not discriminate against them if they do. If those Muslim taxi drivers decided that they couldn't drive a single woman to her destination because it's 'unseemly', then by golly should it be my right to fail to offer service to a Muslim? Not too long ago there was a furor in NY when some observant Jewish boys refused to be driven to school by a woman bus driver. I thought that was pretty darn stupid too, and if I'd been in charge I wouldn't have reassigned the woman bus driver - which is what whoever was in charge did.
4) The Muslim's enthusiasm for blowing themselves up and taking as many non-combatants with them as possible makes me furious. Forty virgins in paradise seem a ridiculous incentive, and it makes me angry whenever I hear about people killed or maimed in the name of Allah, whether it's in an Iraqi marketplace, an Israeli checkpoint, or big, tall buildings in NYC.
5) I don't approve of genital mutilation, polygamy, or stoning as a punishment of adultery. In fact, I'd get out a gun to stop all of these things from happening. They are absolutely not American.
6) The future of Israel is important to me. I consider the creation of Israel a done deal, a fait accompli, and even though I wish the Israelis could somehow 'work things out' with those Palestinians, I will never allow wholesale slaughter of Jews to happen on my watch. And geez, those Jews kick butt! If I was a Muslim, I'd be afraid to tangle with them.
7) I think dogs are terrific. I didn't realize that Muslims thought they were unclean, but that's just another reason not to like Muslims!
8) We went over to Afghanistan (and left before the mission was accomplished!) and all we got was the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. Wow, how special. Where the hell - by the way - is Osama?? Muslims don't give a hoot about democracy. I'm darn lucky to live in America, but we have to remember in the future that democracy can't be thrust upon a population...
You know, we have only to look at Britain and France to see our future. In those places large groups of Muslims have segregated themselves into ghettos, and 20 years after their parents came over their uneducated, unemployed kids are rioting. If I were in charge I'd recognize Muslim immigration as the threat to America it is - more insidious than even the Hispanic hordes - and I'm torque the numbers way, way down. I think we'll look back in 20 years and be darn sorry they're here, and wish they'd never come. Actually, I'm sorry already!

Best written comment I've seen. Factual and to the point. All my relatives had to adapt when coming to this country.

I am proud to be an American~ why can't I say the Pledge of Allegiance in school, when that is a "Country" based privilege. But now, they can install foot washing basins for religious purposes?? But we cannot have prayer in schools... what's wrong with this picture?

I respect and admire your achievements. I think that most of can understand that your people are newcomers who are "adjusting" to their new home. Perhaps your community can take your newcomers aside and tell them that forcing their religious beliefs down our throats just isn't done here. Perhaps your community can tell them that if they don't want to do the job, they shouldn't apply for it. Perhaps your community needs to communicate to your newcomers, the values and customs of their new country.

What lead you to leave Somali to come here? Was it due to religious intolerance? Was it due to political intolerance? Was it due to an oppressive government and lack of freedom? If any of these hold true for you and your people, then you need to examine what you are doing to the citizens of your new country. If your intent is to force us to bend to your will, then I'm in for the fight. If it isn't, then you and your Somali community needs to back off. Many of us who have been incredibly tolerant and actually welcoming, are quickly losing our patience.

Your letter alone speaks to the disregard and disdain that you have for those of us who aren't Muslim or who might disagree with the antics of the taxi drivers and cashiers. Instead of flipping the bird at us and saying "get over it", perhaps you could explain why it is that you didn't stay in your country with your MBA and six languages.

Last week in the other paper there was a letter to the editor from a former Asst. AG who is an expert on transportation law. She said that it is well settled that common carriers (including taxis) are to transport anyone with the fare.

ALready women traveling without men are experiencing difficulties with Somali cab drivers refusing to take them to their destination.

Lawsuits will ensue over the foot washing basin as it promotes Islam above other religions. The religion clause has been interpreted to mean that no branch of government, be it federal or local, may take action that promotes religion; there have been lawsuits over teh 10 commandments, holiday decorations; poinsettias have even been banned from the courthouse in St. Paul, at least I think it was the courthouse.

A muslim student in another state sued because his high school graduation was held in a church. Someone at the college should sue because providing a foot basin for religious use promotes Islam above other religions.

Many Somalis will leave soon because they're here on a portected status viss which exprise next year.

Drive cars into clinics? OK!
Assassinate doctors and nurses? OK!
Blow up federal buildings? OK!
Offer tolerance and understanding to those who are different? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I am not sure I understand this, "religion of peace."

I am totally disgusted to find out that there are foot washing bins at MCTC...Not only is this the grossest thing I have heard (why can't they take full bath's, like the rest of American's)....OUR MINNESOTA TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THIS....ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!the Star Tribunes article today was pathetic...they are trying to squash the true fears of Minnesotan's and one more thing....My boyfriend drives a tow truck and last week he was called to the cedar riverside area...when trying to do his job, he was surrounded by 8 young somalian (somalian confirmed by police report)...they jumped on his truck...like savages...and wouldn't let him do his job until the police got there and took them away!!!
This is BS!

THERES A NOVEL IDEA;)

FROM NOW ON, WHEN I CALL A CAB, I WILL SAY NO MUSLIM CAB DRIVERS...I WON'T STAND IN LINES THAT HAVE MUSLIM CASHIERS AND I WILL STAY AWAY FROM SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS!!!

I am a recent graduate of Normandale Community College. At the collete, they have special prayer rooms for Muslims, but God forbid they would have special rooms to accomodate other religious groups.

Several months ago an e-mail was circulated to the Professors advising them not to call on Muslims or to at least be easy on them if they were not prepared for class during the time that they are fasting for Ramadahn. Why no special treatment for those fasting for lent etc?

Taken in isolation, the action of a private company such as Target deciding to give preferential to a religious group might not be so suspect; however, coupled with the increasingly demanding rights of the Muslim community that the rest of culture bend to accomodate their religious beliefs it is just becomes all the more frustrating.

It seems that instead of fighting to preserve our own American culture within America, we are fighting that over in Iraq while succombing to the religious demands of a culture within our own country.

Target is using these Muslim folks to make a boat load of money. But many people don't see it.

I have no problem with people saying silent prayers to themselves.

I have a big problem with these Muslim folks washing their feet. You can take a shower in the morning. It will last all day. If you don't think it's so... then move back to where ever you came from. I do not want the state of MN to kiss your ass.

I am tired of trying to be civil and relate with you in your menial jobs. It is not a pleasure to relate with your behaviors, nor with your 'traditional dress'.

I think many of the immiagrants are a drag on the economy. They pay hardly any taxes, yet consume medical services, educational services, and social services. Target is getting rich by employing these folks.

Then Target turns around and tells us how much they are contributing back to the community. What a joke.

I'm a bit puzzled that Muslim workers feel so little gratitude to a country that opened its arms so that they could escape the terror of a homeland where no law existed. My personal theory is that they are being misled by radical imams. Originally, Islam would not accept any interlocutor between the individual and God. It was supposed to be a clergyless religion, sort of like the Quakers. Since clergy inevitably corrupt any religion where they get a foothold, I think that was a wise reaction to the history of religion. But it takes a lot of fortitude to stay true to such pure intentions. There will always be those who will see POWER in the role of religious leader and who will twist religion to permit them to aggrandize themselves. Civilization itself was the work of priests.

So, I think the taxi drivers and cashiers are being misled by people who tell impressionable Muslims that doing this or that normal thing will lead to eternity in hell. We Christians are well familiar with that. Jerry Falwell and Jimmy Swaggart are our version of the imams who mislead the flock.

What can we do about it? I think Mustafa Kemal had the right idea when he tried to make Turkey secular. It took a lot of force on his part, but Turkey is more modern than countries where the imams remained in power. Somehow the Muslim immigrants have to shake off the mesmerism of the imams. They have to learn that secularism doesn't cause corruption. All kinds of secular Americans live decent lives without decadence. Whereas lots of vocal Christians like Michele Bachmann are as decadent as they come. Personal decency comes from inside, not from following clergy. And unless the Koran SAYS don't handled packaged meat, its NOT harar no matter HOW much some local imam tries to tell you. I really think the people causing the problem are like the Christian evangelicals. Some people just can't be satisifed unless they are causing others problems. I think that's one way they advertise they are "holier than thou". Its how they show their lack of confidence.

Be prepared to turn away 70% of the taxis you call.

How does the installation of foot washing basins PROMOTE Islam? It certainly ACCOMMODATES the religion, but I don't see how it promotes it, unless MCTC is also installing images of Mohammed and lines of scripture around the basins. Of course, the foot basin could be a sacred, holy symbol of Islam, but I doubt it.

But any sacred, Christian symbols that may go up over Christmas and Easter are probably OK and don't really promote Christianity because all real Americans are Christians.

This is a no-win situation. As reported, if people continued to get hurt washing their feet sinks, the school would get sued. Of course, installing the foot basins opens the school to a law suit from paranoid, uptight, close-minded Minnesotans. Yea for our legal system.

TIP: Spell Check & Proof Read.

Be prepared to turn away 70% of the taxis you call.
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I will purposely ask for a non Muslim cab driver. I will say it is against my religion to be in the same proximity because they are impure. To insure I get a non-Muslim driver I will have a pork chop and a bottle of Vodka and my money will be coated with bacon grease. Discrimination goes both ways OsamaBill.

Bacon Spray - LMAO! I have another weapon against radical islamic terrorists. It is currently in the testing phase. It is a taser that shoots bacon projectiles!

"I respect and admire your achievements. I think that most of can understand that your people are newcomers who are "adjusting" to their new home. "
Wow, I can totally tell how completely sincere you are in that statement, since the rest of your post totally backs that up. What's your current profession? Because I think you would make an excellent Welcome Wagon greeter for new immigrants to our county.
"Hi, welcome to our country. We totally respect you. Now get your ass busy with assimilating right now, or go back to where you came from. Have a nice day!"

I received this in a email and I thought it was rather good:

Can a good Muslim be a good American?

THEOLOGICALLY: NO, Because his allegiance is to Allah,the moon god of Arabia.

RELIGIOUSLY: NO, Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)

SCRIPTURALLY: NO, Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Kuran).

GEOGRAPHICALLY: NO, Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

SOCIALLY: NO, Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

POLITICALLY: NO, Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, "the great satan".

DOMESTICALLY: NO, Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife whe she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

INTELLECTUALLY: NO, Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

PHILOSOPHICALLY: NO, Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam CANNOT CO-EXIST. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

SPIRITUALLY: NO, Because when we decalre "one nation under God", the Chritians God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as "Heavenly Father", nor is he ever called LOVE in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation...perhaps we should be very suspicious of "ALL MUSLIMS" in this country. They obviously CANNOT be both "good" Muslims and GOOD AMERICANS. Call it what you wish....IT IS STILL THE TRUTH.

PASS IT ON FELLOW AMERICANS.

Now THAT is the truth! Whoever came up with that was spot on. The only thing missing was the part about their undying allegiance to the welfare system.

The issue with the Muslim taxi drivers and the Metropolitan Airport Commission reeks with hypocrisy. They are attempting to claim discrimination in their effort to descriminate against booze-carrying non-Muslims.

To Brian and all the other racists here---Are YOU kidding me? I was thinking the same thing re: racists who read the Star Tribune. I am just as frustrated with the whole situation at hand, but alot of the responses on here are so fueled by racism, predjudice, and hate, I find it hard to believe that people like you are looking for a positive solution to the problem. As a born-again Christian social worker, it's all the more frustrating since I work with Muslim clients as well. But just because I'm frustrated with the situation, doesn't mean I'm not trying to be apart of a positive effort. I'm talking to Muslims and trying to understand where they are coming from...and trying to see how this could be addressed in a way that doesn't put down the Muslim community any more than people like you already have. All you do is wait for a good moment to share your racist thoughts and you guys are off and running. There are some community discussions going on in Mpls. I'd suggest you attend those instead of ranting and raving like a mindless and ignorant person. Be constructive. Maybe you should shut your mouth and try to listen to the other side of the story before you jump to conclusions. Americans, especially the white ones, need to put themselves in a minority's shoes for once and stop viewing things through their own perspective all the time. And I'm not talking about that one time when you went to the store and you were like the only white person in there. Heaven forbid that you're a "minority" in that sense.
And just to set the record straight....all Muslims and immigrants are NOT addicted to the welfare system. I work in NE Mpls and trust me, there's a ton of white people who are at the food shelf and on welfare. But I don't go around generalizing about white people and how they are addicted to meth and alcohol or the welfare system because it's simply not true. My Somali clients work hard and are doing all that they can to get off this fabulous welfare system MN has! As if they enjoy it...yeah right. get a clue people.

Hey osama Bill, how about we install holy water basins in all public places? I mean, we would just be accomodating christianity, not promoting it, right? Say no to foot washing stations, because they also wash their privates in them, too! At work, we used to call the sinks, **** washing stations. Gross!

"How does the installation of foot washing basins PROMOTE Islam? It certainly ACCOMMODATES the religion,"

America DOES NOT have to ACCOMODATE, osamabill! They only have to TOLERATE!!!! TOLERATE does NOT equal ACCOMODATE!!! Get it right!

If a person is hired for let's say a customer service positon. Well, customer service is "all about the cutomer, and doing anything to accommodate the customer", than why are we hiring people who are unable or unwilling to do their entire job? Also, many people have job descriptions and/or duties.You cannot just decide that you do not want to do the work, or that you could not do the work for certain belief reasons. Well, guess what you would proabaly not have a job to return to on the following day. Besides the fact; why do most jobs have requirments but we still continue to hire people who are not good for those jobs, or people who only work when they want to and on their terms?!

"Americans, especially the white ones, "

Pot, meet kettle. Your race-card play has been denied. Nice try though.

"My Somali clients work hard and are doing all that they can to get off this fabulous welfare system MN has! As if they enjoy it...yeah right. get a clue people."

Yeah, that's all we hear, these are hard working people.

Understand, us folks don't need any more hard working people that suck tax dollars from us. These "hard working folks" pay little of no income taxes.

Us tax payers have to educate their children, pay their health care, pay for interpreters when they go to the hospital, clinic, or court. The social services system has been expanded to provide a host of services. I could go on and on. Immigrants are not a bargin.

Immigrants are a backend load on our economy! I would rather pay an American a decent wage, than pay in an indirect manner.

Welcome Wagon. Now that's a novel idea. It's one that might actually work. When the Welcome Wagon came around in our community with the little gifts and coupons from the local shops, it also included information on what the leash laws were, curfews, (Yes, some communities in Minnesota still have a 9:00 PM curfew whistle.), and general information on the community as well as what behavior was or wasn't acceptable in that community, other than the obvious laws. So, why aren't the organizations who are supposed to be helping these immigrants, doing more to educate them on the behaviors that are or are not acceptable in their new home? Why isn't their own community doing more to assist them? If this is just a few radical Muslims who are causing the trouble, then their community needs to pressure them to back off for the good of all. Instead of telling them that "Yes, you have religious freedom here and you can worship as you wish," perhaps the "but" clause needs to be added. "But, don't try to force your religion on the rest of your new countrymen as they don't and will never appreciate it." Our children can't sing even sing Christmas carols in our schools any longer as it might be offensive to someone or another. We used to have religious release time once a week when I was a young girl. That ended as our schools became more and more secular. We will certainly become more polarized on this issue if the rights of all are not taken into consideration. And that includes the rights of Lutherans, Catholics, Episcopalians, Baptists, etc. As I look at the high cost of education and our young people being forced into debt in the tens of thousands of dollars just to get an education, I am absolutely disgusted that public funds are being used for a foot washing basin in one of our public colleges. This has all gone too far. So, Welcome Wagon, wherever you are in Minneapolis, get going. I'm counting on you to spread the word and help keep the peace.

Plain and simple. If you refuse to do the job your hired to do your fired.

If you do not understand the Muslims, then I suggest that you read the Qu'ran and speak with the apostates of Islam. Then go to to a community discussion group. Incidently, Muslims are not a race. Ask yourself this why is there so much debate about Islam today? Read the Qu'ran and learn why.

You have a country of origin, you need to replicate American civilization back home, although that will never happen, you to mired in your peddy ethnic grievances. I don't like any of you immigrants, I don't care where you come from. oh yeah, I'm black.

Now they are not only bombing people but attacking elderly nuns:
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BAGHDAD - A suicide car bomber killed at least 10 in a market near Ramadi on Tuesday and a mortar attack on a Shiite district area in southern Baghdad killed at least four people, officials said.

The suicide car bomber near Ramadi exploded his payload about 1 p.m. in the al-Jazeera district northeast of the provincial capital in an area that was not patrolled by the military, police Col. Tarik Yousif said.

The mortar attack in south Baghdad occurred about 9:45 a.m. in Abu Dasheer, a Shiite enclave in the Sunni-dominated Dora neighborhood. Police said those killed included two children, a woman and a man. It was the second mortar attack on the enclave in three days — three people were killed on Saturday.

The U.S. military said Marine was killed Saturday during combat in Anbar province west of Baghdad but gave no details.

Separately, Kirkuk police 1st. Lt. Marewan Salih said two elderly Chaldean Catholic nuns were stabbed multiple time by two intruders who raided their home Monday night near Kirkuk's Cathedral of the Virgin in Kirkuk. They lived alone and there was no sign of a robbery, Salih said.

Margaret Naoum, 79, was stabbed seven times as she stood in the garden just outside the sisters' home. The attackers then went inside where they found Fawzeiyah Naoum, 85, lying on the sofa, recovering from eye surgery last week. She was stabbed three times.

If you do not understand the Muslims, then I suggest that you read the Qu'ran and speak with the apostates of Islam. Then go to to a community discussion group. Incidently, Muslims are not a race. Ask yourself this why is there so much debate about Islam today? Read the Qu'ran and learn why.

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Here is a more current source of information on Islam and the Qu'ran.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

The race-card excuse has been played out on YOUR end, dear. It's just a response that people like you use to get people of color to shut up when there's an issue about race. And white people like to talk about "I don't have white privilege." Please, I'm tired of your lame excuse....race card??...nice try. I'm not here to talk about race, but it's a big part of this discussion re: Muslims. So instead of dissecting things and responding to just one line that's apart of a bigger picture, listen to what I said in the first place, and then put it into action.

Thanks for the suggestion about reading the Quran, but I'll continue to talk to actual Muslims and get their input too. The Quran can be misinterpreted, in my opinion. That doesn't mean I won't read it, but I feel I learn from Muslims too.

Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev092706a.cfm

"I'm not here to talk about race, "

Yes you are. You brought up white people this, white people that. Racist hypocrite.

Thanks for proving my point re: racism on here! You yet again took one line, focused on that ,and you're off and running. People like you never cease to amaze me. Focus on the issue at hand. It doesn't seem like you want there to be a solution becuase you want to have something to whine about and want a group of people to go on a rant about, right? Yes, you do. Mmmm...which minority group can we talk about next? Let's see... Me, racist? FYI---people of color are not racist. They can be racially prejudiced, but not racist because it was created by whites to be used against non-whites and it's worked wonders don't you think? I'm not going to get into all that though. You're a waste of time. I'll educate you when you're ready to be educated.

Yes, keep talking. Because it is you that is proving my point. Your radical point of view speaks volumes. White people have a corner on the racist market? Please. And I have news for you. I assumed you were white before you claimed to be a person of color.

This IS America! Sometimes I wonder if we have forgotten that! Leylia, I wish everyone who came to this country would think the way you do...a new country...change.

Please don't get me wrong. Everyone needs to honor their traditions, but not to the point where it affects society as a whole!

THIS IS AMERICA!

Only whites can be racist? How big is that lump on your head? It must hurt because you bumped it pretty good to think that. But if you truly believe that is true then I'm the Easter Bunny. Really. And yes, I'm a white bunny. Some of the colored bunnies call me "Cracker" whatever that means. It must be because I resemble a bunny shaped saltine.

The Easter Bunny

Who is being intolerant now!

Thank you, that sounds ....reasonable. How would it be if I refused to give animal based medicine to patients , or refused to help a patient eat there meat on fridays because I'm "born Catholic" and its not my "custom".
Religion doesn't define legal and illegal in this Country, that's why our beloved ancestors migrated here in the first place , freedom from religious perscution.

"FYI---people of color are not racist. They can be racially prejudiced, but not racist"

Let's not play the semantics game here. A bigot is a bigot and you appear to be one of them.

Is it possible for you to engage in a rational discussion without name calling?

War is hell. Civil war is worse. Iraq is a country in the midsts of a civil war and atrocities will be committed.

Ever heard of Darfur? Rawanda? How many were killed in these genocide's and nary an atrocity was committed by a Muslim. But that does not matter to you.

This does not excuse any of these crimes against humanity. But the violence in Iraq is simply another example of man's inhumanity against man. Nothing more, nothing less, and it certainly is not an indictment against all of Islam.

By your logic, all of Catholicism is a bunch of perverse child molesters based on the actions of some Priests.

The clerks at Target were not radicals and they were not creating a scene. They were not fired (at least not before the Star Tribune broke the story), they did not protest or file law suits or hold press conferences. They did not preach the word of Islam or chastise Christianity. The clerks simply asked customers to scan their own products if the products contained pork or got someone else to do it. The individual stores worked out a system that worked for everyone, except for a few impatient, insensitive, close-minded, petty, whiny fools.

"The individual stores worked out a system that worked for everyone, except for a few impatient, insensitive, close-minded, petty, whiny fools."

The same can be said for those that refuse to scan a customer's bacon. It's insensitive, close-minded, petty, and whiny. Sorry. You lose. In a nation built on customer service, there is no room and no excuse for inconveniencing customers based on some silly, close-minded, petty, whiny superstitions. It's also amusing to see you aren't above hypocrisy. Or maybe you just forgot about the little diatribe you posted about name calling? Typical, billyboy. Typical indeed.

Catholic child molesters? How many? I can say safely that probably 10,000 people died at the hand of Muslims for each one of them. It just shows how little argument you have to even make such a comparison. Once again you take the actions of a few and try to compare it to the actions of a few million. "De nile" ain't just a river in Egypt. It is where you live. And now for todays reminder why I speak "The truth". Do let me know how many Catholic and Jewish bombings there were today OsamaBill.

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BAGHDAD - Shiite militants and police enraged by massive truck bombings in the northwestern town of Tal Afar went on a revenge spree against Sunni residents there Wednesday, killing as many as 60 people, officials said.

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The gunmen began roaming Sunni neighborhoods in the city, shooting at residents and homes, according to police and a local Sunni politician.

Ali al-Talafari, a Sunni member of the local Turkomen Front Party, said the Iraqi army had arrested 18 policemen accused of being involved after they were identified by the Sunni families targeted. But he said the attackers included Shiite militiamen.

He said more than 60 Sunnis had been killed, but a senior hospital official in Tal Afar put the death toll at 45, with four wounded.

The hospital official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to security concerns, said the victims were men between the ages of 15 and 60, and they were killed with a shot to the back of the head.

Police said earlier dozens of Sunnis were killed or wounded, but they had no precise figures, and communications problems made it difficult to reach them for an update. The shooting continued for more than two hours, the officials said.

Army troops later moved into the Sunni areas to stop the violence and a curfew was slapped on the entire town, according to Wathiq al-Hamdani, the provincial police chief and his head of operations, Brig. Abdul-Karim al-Jibouri.

"The situation is under control now," said al-Hamdani. "The local Tal Afar police have been confined to their bases and policemen from Mosul are moving there to replace them."

Tal Afar, located 260 miles northwest of Baghdad, is in the province of Ninevah, of which Mosul is the capital. It is a mainly Turkomen city with some 60 percent of its residents adhering to Shiite Islam and the rest mostly Sunnis.

The violence came a day after two truck bombs shattered markets in the city, killing at least 63 people and wounding dozens in the second assault in four days. After Tuesday's bombings, suspected Sunni insurgents tried to ambush ambulances carrying the injured out of the northwestern city but were driven off by police gunfire, Iraqi authorities said.

The carnage was the worst bloodshed in a surge of violence across Iraq as militants on both sides of the sectarian divide apparently have fled to other parts of the country to avoid a U.S.-Iraqi security crackdown, raising tensions outside the capital.

The city was an insurgent stronghold until an offensive by U.S. and Iraqi troops in September 2005, when rebel fighters fled into the countryside without a battle. Last March, President Bush cited the operation as an example that gave him "confidence in our strategy."

But even though U.S. and Iraqi forces put up sand barriers around Tal Afar to limit access, the city has suffered frequent insurgent attacks.

Meanwhile, hundreds of Iraqis detained in the U.S.-led security crackdown in Baghdad are being held in two detention centers designed to hold at most a few dozen people, The New York Times reported Wednesday, citing an Iraqi monitoring group.

The report said 705 people were packed into an area built for 75 at one of the detention centers, in the town of Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad. The other center, on Muthana Air Base, held 272 people, including two women and four boys, in a space designed to hold about 50.

Officials from the monitoring group said they did not know the sectarian composition of the detainee populations.

Also Wednesday, explosions struck the government center in Fallujah, west of Baghdad, but there was no immediate word on casualties, officials said. Maj. Jeff Pool, a Marine spokesman in the area, said initial reports indicated that two suicide car bombers had attacked the building but detonated their explosives at the gates.

The clerks at Target were not radicals and they were not creating a scene. They were not fired (at least not before the Star Tribune broke the story), they did not protest or file law suits or hold press conferences. They did not preach the word of Islam or chastise Christianity. The clerks simply asked customers to scan their own products if the products contained pork or got someone else to do it. The individual stores worked out a system that worked for everyone, except for a few impatient, insensitive, close-minded, petty, whiny fools.
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OsamaBill, people are hired to do a job. They did not. The 99.99% that have posted on this board agree they don't belong at that job. You and any aliases you have represent the .01%. That either makes you blind, stupid or both. I choose the latter. Explain to me again why it is okay not to do your job when the description is "Scan ALL customer goods for purchase"? Explain to me why it is okay to turn away a blind person with a guide dog for a cab fare. Explain to my why we should have 2 sets of rules in society. Explain to me why we should build in segregation in our society when we have spent so much time trying to get rid of it. Hey, the word "Idiot" just popped into my head. Can you guess who I was thinking of? *Rolls eyes with extreme sarcasm*

"The individual stores worked out a system that worked for everyone, except for a few impatient, insensitive, close-minded, petty, whiny fools."

The same can be said for those that refuse to scan a customer's bacon. It's insensitive, close-minded, petty, and whiny. Sorry. You lose. In a nation built on customer service, there is no room and no excuse for inconveniencing customers based on some silly, close-minded, petty, whiny superstitions. It's also amusing to see you aren't above hypocrisy. Or maybe you just forgot about the little diatribe you posted about name calling? Typical, billyboy. Typical indeed.
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LMAO! I couldn't have said it better myself!

Katie,
you're assuming I "came here". You assume the community and I approve of cab drivers refusing to give rides to people with alcohol. We generally feel people are entitled to their religious believes, but I personally think they're in the wrong business as cab drivers if they have issues with a bottle of alcohol.
We have plenty of educational programs around MN to teach immigrants what to expect. Look around, won't you? And YES my note speaks of disregard, but for those who wish us gone and assume we're not Citzens, if that's what you mean.
It's really none of your business why I didn't stay in my Country, but let me indulge you: I AM IN MY COUNTRY. See, there you go assuming things again, and you know what happens when you do that...

I'm very careful about being nice with people but Eden Prairie is completely changing with what's going on. The Target takes forever to check out now that almost all of the cashiers are gone and they're training new ones.

The saddest thing I saw was that the Somali kids weren't playing with the other white and black kids at the playground. You could clearly see the line drawn where the kids had separated themselves. Then the weirdest thing happened. I knew not to bring my 4lb yorkie near the Somali kids because dogs are 'unclean' but this one little boy came running up after talking to his mom. To my shock, he proceeded to start hitting and kicking my puppy. The boy's mother and the other Somali moms didn't even say anything or stop him. My husband and I ended up running away while he continued to chase us for over a block. My dog is ok, but he cried most of the night, I think from the pain. I woke up in the middle of the night to discover he had crawled under the covers and was sleeping in the crook of my arm.

The elementary school that my kids will go to is now 40% Somali. I'm scared that if they're exposed to so much intolerance, they might develop hatred towards groups of people.

Should a Catholic service worker refuse to serve customers a hamburger during Lent?

You folks in MN have a big problem. Much bigger
than pork or taxi cabs. Go and find out what is
being taught/preached in the local Mosques. You
will be shocked. The vast majority of immigrants,
past and present, are peaceful, law abiding folks
that just want a better life for themselves and their
children. However, a frightening large number, mostly
Muslims, so deplore our culture and way of life that
they seek to undermine them in an unrelenting effort to,
at a minimum, establish culture/law contrary to those
of traditional American values. What you are seeing now
is only the begininng. Wait until this escalates to the
point your politicians begin to "act".

If I were at Target, I'd be scanning my own stuff. They had self-scan stations at K-Mart in St Paul, and I was glad to use them. So I guess I'm not sure why scanning your own bacon caused people to complain so much. Places used to take your purchases to your car and don't do that anymore. I heard no long whiney responses to that.

But here's what people can do. Don't shop where there is a refusal to scan ALL your purchases. Lunds carries out groceries and does all the scanning of them. Check around and I'm sure you can find places that will scan your bacon if that's what you require. I read that Target transferred those who didn't like handling bacon to other jobs, so that should mean fewer culture collisions on that matter.

It would be interesting to find out what percentage of Muslims actually think this should be a religious matter. One thing we know is that Muslims differ on a lot of religious matters, pretty much like all the other religions. Since we get so many of the Somalis, it could be Somali Muslims find the problem that other Muslims don't.

All the dog walking in Minneapolis must really cause a problem since that means pretty much the whole city is unclean to them. Seems like that should be a bigger problem than packaged pork.

Well, no doubt about it, America is a very diverse country and presents lots of challenges to people who come from a place with a single religion and race. But no question American residence has some huge benefits, so I'm guess the Somalis will learn to cope just to be able to live here. Because their neighbors will only adjust so much for them. None of us gets to live exactly as we wish, but we see more pluses to American life than minuses, and that's why we adapt. If you put down too many conditions, life will just be that much harder for you.

Don't you know that the suburbs are now the ghetto's?
hahahahahah!Especially Eagan, Burnsville, Brooklyn Park and Brooklyn Center!!oh yeah and crystal, columbia heights...

Your country? Isn't this country really belong to Indians. Its all our country. I don't agree with what the target employee, but to say that all muslim should be shipped back. Have you ever thought about your ancestor getting used to this country and the discrimination they had to endure. Why don't they shipped your great grandparent back? Were they even legal immigrant? Considering people stowed away in ship all the time. If this is during WW2 you would fit in with the Nazi Supremacist group perfectly.

Has anyone actually experienced this or is this just a heated debate without much evidence on the ground?
I'm researching this topic. Please email me if you or someone you know has encountered cashier refusal.
yourstorynow@gmail.com

Thank you

There is absolutely no issue handling pork. We just wont eat it.

We are going to hell in a handbasket by our extreme tolerance of those who wish to change our way of life. The Muslim group CARE believes that the US constitution should be replaced by the Koran.

Wake up USA. Time to start exporting unwanted goods.

Hello!!!! And we wonder why people say Americans are dumb....it seems the ignorant people are the ones who are always heard...what a shame!!! I don't understand how someone can say to go back where you came from because of their religious beliefs!!! Living in America has absolutely no freaking tie to this woman's religion!!! That doesn't even make sense, so thank you to those idiots who just made Americans look a little more ignorant over that stupid remark!!! Get a clue buddy and why don't you try believing in something yourself! BTW, I am an American.

I work with pharmacists that refuse to dispense the morning after pill and have their license, So I don't think this is true, maybe just no ones reported them. *boggles*

I just posted a video of an interview with Hussein Samatar, the Director of the African Development Center here:
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He talks about Islamic financing, cultural differences and some of the challenges immigrants face in coming to America.

You made a comment about not being able to see a womans face through a burka and you are correct. However, the original article stated that the cashier was wearing a hijab, a viel to cover the hair. It doesn't cover their face.

Let the heathens bring a portable foot bath that they pay for themselves..This aint about footbaths, alcohol free cabs, no pork on the fingers cashiers or any of that other crap, it's about takin over your country - and as stupid as most of you are, they probably will because the only way you jackasses will wake up is when they hit you over the head with a shovel - naieve dumbasses!!!!

Don't be a fool, it will not work, you will end up a broken woman!

Get over it. If the cashier hadn't had on her garb how would you even know she was muslim. And how do you know she wasn't born here in the good ole USA. MY goodness you all sound so biggetted. Get over yourselves and just get on with life.

Finally the MAC gets it right:

Starting May 11, any airport taxi driver who refuses to transport riders carrying alcohol will be suspended for 30 days. And after a second offense, their license would be revoked for two years.
The Metropolitan Airports Commission voted 11-0 Monday to approve the crackdown, which some Muslim drivers say violates their religious beliefs. Commissioners called the change reasonable, practical and important for rider safety.

"We are sending a message that if you want to drive a taxi at our airport you can't refuse our customers," Steve Wareham, operations manager of Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport.

The only approved refusals would involve the driver's safety or would be prompted by riders, such as excess luggage or large families.

Jeff Hassan, a lawyer representing Muslim cabbies, said the issue might wind up going to the Minnesota Supreme Court.

According to MAC figures, there have been about one dozen alcohol-related refusals each month, out of roughly 60,000 monthly rides.

There are currently 900 licensed cab drivers at the airport. About three-quarters are Somali, and a majority of those are Muslim.

Hassan, had earlier told hearing officers about a 1990 Minnesota Supreme Court ruling that allowed Amish people to forego displaying bright orange triangles on their buggies for religious reasons.

Many airport taxi drivers say the proposed penalties would force them to chose between their Islamic beliefs and their jobs. They say their religion prohibits drinking, selling and carrying alcohol, so transporting a rider with alcohol would be a sin.

You need to visit the middle east and grow to appreciate how little you mean to these people. Christian arabs are thought of as infidels as well.
An interesting thing tho is the young muslim students who come here from the middle east cant wait to get their hands on a girl,liquor,cigarettes and sometime even pork,like bacon.
They, like you are phonies. Wake up before we lose our country to these people. They believe in the Koran when its convenient.Remember 9/11 it was done by a "peace loving" people who were nothing more than cowardly bastards who kileed thousands of innocent people.

Don't be so eager to accommodate these newly arrived immigrants, they appear to me to be the "Trojan Horse".

This is perhaps one of the saddest blogs I have ever read. I don´t want to respond to the blog or comments within it, but ask that people leave their self-righteousness behind, and look at history.

America is a country founded on tolerance, acceptance, and changing to adapt to the evolution and advancement of the human spirit. America is a country capable of changing, assimilating and synthesising a new societal structure to deal with the problems of its time.
America has a proud heritage of accepting the opressed, who as immigrants could not always instantly adapt to the norms of American society, but did try to do the best they could to shake their old views, and move to a mindset more reflective of the mainstream. Generally their children, unfettered from the old world, did just that, and became proud contributing Americans. (This woman is working, not shirking.)

Do immigrants challenge the current status quo? You bet; they always did. Were they accepted at the start? More often than not, no. Was American society advanced and enriched? Of course.

It is the duty of each generation of Americans to construct a more humane society, based on tolerance and respect: respect for people, and respect for an incredible historical legacy of tolerance and freedom.
That means friction, it means controversy, but it should be done with respect.

Almost all of us can go back a few generations, and know that their forebears probably faced organised prejudice and misconceptions based on generalisation.
Just as you would have been mortified to actually have seen your grandmother as a young woman treated with contempt, and villified by `real Americans,´ `real Americans today can reflect on embodying the same prejudices they would have resented in Grandma´s day.

Tolerance, the separation of church and state, and making religion a private, not public affair, and working with new Americans to gently assimilate them will go a long way to diffusing the anger and making today´s America a reflection of its great history.

... and I am not even an American.
It isn´t always a perfect country, but it is one that strives to perfect and improve itself constantly.
I am a great admirer of the ideals that shaped and made the United States the shining beacon of freedom and tolerance that it has been in many dark decades. May that beacon ever shine.

I don't care who you are...That's funny! Thanks for the laugh!!

If they won't do the job because of any reason they deserve to be fired as well as their supervisor for being so insensitive to the United States way of doing things. If they have a problem handling pork, dealing with dogs and so on. They should get a position in a factory!!!

My spouse happens to work as a manager for a rather large and well known purveyor of caffeinated beverages.

Every week she comes home and complains how difficult it is to schedule enough coverage for her store. Why? Employee availability and requests for days off is the answer. Some of her employees have said they are simply not available to work on certain days.

Sometimes, she has gotten in a scheduling bind and has had to ask people to work on days they listed as unavailable. Typically, her requests have been denied. The employee either says no up front, or the employee calls in to say they will not be able to make it in to the store that day.

Care to guess which day is the most difficult for her to schedule? Here's a hint—Sunday.

Care to guess which day people say they cannot work? Here's a hint—Sunday.

Care to guess why this day is so difficult for her to schedule? Here's a hint—"I can't work on Sunday because I need to go to church."

So based on the comments many have made here, my wife's employees are not doing their jobs. When asked to work on Sunday, they refuse. Why do they refuse? For some silly, religious reason.

Really, if you think the Muslim Target employees should be fired for failing to perform certain duties, then you'll be more than happy to stand behind my wife when she fires those lazy Christians who can't be bothered to work on Sunday. (And you will be first in line to take their place.)

Unless, of course, you are a hypocrite.

The funny thing is. Cab driving jobs have existed for ever. Why are the no AMERICANS doing it. Cause they feel above such jobs until they are offended. Then we blame immigrants cause they are taking our jobs. Get over yourselves. I know a few mechanics that refused a paycut a year and a half ago to work for only 23.00 an hour. One now works at fast food place, the other a quick tuneup joint. Bet they wish they had accepted the cut. But that is what we do.

Who cares whether or not some coffee shop is open Sunday morning. As far as I'm concerned they can all go out of business. They seem to be a gathering spots for slackers.

Be a man and ring it up yourself? Are you kidding? i dont give 2 cents if Jesus didn't eat pork... that doesn't make it a bad food choice... THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING YOUR JOB, BE IT FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS, OR WHATEVER OTHER EXCUSE YOU WANT TO USE, TOUGH!!! GET A NEW JOB!!!!!

So if your company wants you to lose your benefits or pay more for benefits, or take a paycut. Tough, man up and get a new job.

I don't care if they are working for your wife or if they are Muslim Target employees. If they can't work the schedule and duties required they should expect to be fired. Why apply for a job that you know will conflict with your beliefs or personal schedule? Each time you don't perform your job or don't show up you decrease your value to the company until they finally say bye bye.

My employer pays me to work. I assume that gives them the right to set my schedule and my duties and expect me to abide by their decisions. After all, I work for them - not vice versa! Nothing hypocritical about that.

Osaka Bill -- Christian employees are not your wife's problem. Her problem is that she's a wussy manager. Get her an infusion of cojones before Starbucks relieves HER of her duties because of an inability to maintain a fully staffed store.

A manager with chops would be giving these people (assuming they were hired under the understanding that they'd be available 7 days per week) warnings for each no show, documenting everything, and after one, two, three warnings (or whatever Starbuck's manager's manual says) and then BOOM, out the door. Plus, good managers don't put up with the "I asked off now I'm sick on Sunday" game. They document enough to find the pattern, then dump the person for being generally undependable.

Hourly employees, regardless of race, color, creed, or whathaveyou, will ALWAYS stretch the leash as far as the manager will permit. If the manager lacks backbone, he or she will get bent into a pretzel. You're watching it happen. It's her fault. Tell her to fix it.

Now you are reaching. If your wife has no spine that has nothing to do with this thread. Don't blame Christianity on her lack of will. Islam is still a bloody and intolerant religion BTW unless they are Muslims building bombs in the ENTIRE middle east. Nobody died from the lack of working on Sunday. How many deaths in the last 2 months due to Islam? I can look it up for you if you like. On the local level do the job or do something else. Don't look for sympathy if your wife can't hire help that fits the needs of the business. That is stupidity based on excuses.

How many deaths in the last 2 months due to Islam?

How many deaths in the last 2 months due to capitalism? Christianity?

Islam is still a bloody and intolerant religion

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Denial alert.

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While I believe this is your sincere opinion, some of those who have responded to this issue are not so sincere. These people are fine with firing a Muslim for, "failing to perform their duties," based on a religious reason. However, mention other religious beliefs that interfere with work and these same people either: 1.) Do not see the interference, 2.) Ignore the interference based on race and religion.

I just want to make sure that if anyone is OK with firing a Muslim because they fail to perform duties based on the Islamic faith, then they have to be equally fine with firing a Christian because they fail to perform duties based on Christian beliefs.

Personally, I find faith to be a powerful and moving aspect of our lives that should be respected. If that means not being available for Sunday shifts or if that means not being able to scan bacon at the checkout counter, I would prefer to see that these beliefs be tolerated and accommodated to the best of the employer's ability.

However, if we are not going to exercise this tolerance, so be it. Just make sure we are spreading our intolerance equally.

Just would like to thank you Mike for failing to see the point of my message and attacking the messenger instead.

The point was not how my wife managers her store. Whether or not she has documented behavior, provided verbal and written warnings, or outright fired employees is irrelevant.

The point was the behavior of her employees. Specifically, these employees are using their religious faith as an excuse for failing to perform job duties. Instead of the religion being Islam, it is Christianity. Instead of failing to scan bacon, these people are failing to be available for or showing up for work.

Same general excuse for the same general behavior.

No double-standards here. If you want to fire a Muslim for failing to scan your bacon, then you must want to fire a Christian for failing to be available on Sundays when asked.

The point is your wife is free to demand - up front - that a requirement of employment is to work on Sundays. Not that many people go to church, they probably want to sleep in or have a day off with thier families.

She is welcome to have that as a condition of employment. The problem with the Taxi drivers, dogs, alcohol, pork products is that it's an everyday part of their job. It's a PITA for someone to say "Well I'll do 95% of the job".

Additionally I don't think these muslims know whether lard is used in the fast food one buys. You know a candy bar could have marshmallow made with protien (gelatin) from pork bones. Similiarly, a canned good could contain pork products.

It's time to get rid of stone age superstitions. We aren't asking them to eat it - get over it!

Honestly, I don't see a problem with people not being able to work ONE DAY. I can see it being a problem if peoples availabilty is limited to two days a week. When you are working a part time job that pays nothing (I am sure this is the case) people are entitled to have one day off that they can't work. I have a part time job and yes, Sundays are the days I WON'T work, not because of church but because of family obligations. I am sure all of your wife's employees are not people who go to church every Sunday but maybe people who want ONE DAY to themselves. Really, is that a lot to ask? In a part time job, it is nice to have consistentcy. Maybe it is time that she hires people who can work Sundays.

I do recall when white man got to America it was full of people already. They faught them and took their land from them. They made them live on small reservations. Besides the fact, everyone wants to talk about this being our "American Culture". America's cultures is a mix between everything that has ever moved here.

Point blank, if you don't want a Muslim checking you out at the store then don't go through their line. Then you won't have nothing to complain about.

More good news from the religion of piece.

Here is one article on how the Palestinians are teaching their children to hate and prepare for taking over. If that isn't enough the other story I read today was a TV show aimed at teaching Islams children how to be future martyrs. It is just a few misguided people giving Islam a bad name according to OsamaBill. A few million maybe...
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GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas militants have enlisted the iconic Mickey Mouse to broadcast their message of Islamic dominion and armed resistance to their most impressionable audience — little kids.

A giant black-and-white rodent — named "Farfour," or "butterfly," but unmistakably a Mickey ripoff — does his high-pitched preaching against the U.S. and Israel on a children's show run each Friday on Al-Aqsa TV, a station run by Hamas. The militant group, sworn to Israel's destruction, shares power in the Palestinian government.

"You and I are laying the foundation for a world led by Islamists," Farfour squeaked on a recent episode of the show, which is titled, "Tomorrow's Pioneers."

"We will return the Islamic community to its former greatness, and liberate Jerusalem, God willing, liberate Iraq, God willing, and liberate all the countries of the Muslims invaded by the murderers."

Children call in to the show, many singing Hamas anthems about fighting Israel.

Israel has long complained that the Palestinian airwaves are filled with incitement.

An Israeli organization that monitors Palestinian media, Palestinian Media Watch, said the Mickey Mouse lookalike takes "every opportunity to indoctrinate young viewers with teachings of Islamic supremacy, hatred of Israel and the U.S., and support of 'resistance,' the Palestinian euphemism for terror."

The television station would not comment.

A spokeswoman from Walt Disney Co.'s headquarters in Burbank, Calif., did not immediately return messages asking for comment about the use of a Disney-like character.

Yehia Moussa, a Hamas leader in the movement's Gaza Strip base, denied inciting children against Jews. "Our problem is not with the Jews. Our problem is with the (Israeli) occupation and the occupiers," Moussa said.

Israeli officials denounced the program. David Baker, an official in Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office, said, "There is nothing comic about inciting young generations of Palestinians to hate Israelis."

Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev called the program "outrageous" and charged that the Palestinians have not carried out their commitments to stop incitement of hatred toward Israel. "Children are taught that killing Jews is a good thing," he said. "Children are taught to hate Jews and to hate nonbelievers."

In strife-ridden Gaza, however, dreams of Islamic dominion and animosity toward the U.S. and Israel are widespread.

A Gaza-based psychologist said the program proved that the culture of glorifying violence had penetrated Palestinian society.

"It's the fault of both (Israel and the Palestinians)," said Samir Zakkout, from the Gaza Community Mental Health Program. "If Palestinians had peace, children wouldn't learn violence."

Children have been traumatized by bloodshed in the course of Israeli attacks and Palestinian infighting, he said.

"There's been a collapse of values," he said. "If I can kill my enemy, I can kill my brother."

Basem Abu Sumaya, head of the Palestinian Broadcasting Corp., said such programming was inappropriate.

"I don't think it's professional or even humane to use children in such harsh political programs," Abu Sumaya said. "Children's nationalist spirit must be developed differently."

The Palestinian Broadcasting Corp. is controlled by Hamas' political rival, the Fatah movement of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas..

Hamas loyalists launched the Al Aqsa satellite channel last year. Bearded young men read the news, often offering live news broadcasts. Islamic music is layered over footage of masked militants firing rockets into Israel. But the channel also broadcasts talk shows, programs about the disabled and cartoons.

Hamas loyalists also run at least five news Web sites, one newspaper — launched just last week — and a radio station.

They are not doing the job based on the requirements of the job. So you are okay with a blind person being refused service because they have a guide dog? That is just plain cruel and extremely discriminatory. It sickens me that there are people that would do something like that. Secondly, as somebody else put it, it's time to get rid of these silly stone age beliefs and rejoin the modern world. If they are not ready then I'm going to have to sick the Boogie Man on them. Or worse yet, Miss Piggy.

Finally the MAC does the right thing. Do the job or lose the job. Why was this even an issue? How is it that these people ever got away with discriminating against passengers? Time to put away the stone age fear that a piece of bacon will steal your soul and join modern society. If you can't handle that - I hear Mogadishu or Baghdad is nice this time of year. I have a beer and a pork chop for any cab driver that feels they are being treated unfairly by this decision.

Time to put away the stone age fear that a piece of bacon will steal your soul and join modern society.

LOL. Yeah, Christianity is so modern and rational. "Jesus! I drink your blood!"

LOL. Yeah, Christianity is so modern and rational. "Jesus! I drink your blood!"
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If you want to discuss how each uses blood then let's have a look. Let's see - Catholics use wine to symbolically represent the blood of Christ at mass all over the world. Muslims use real blood at mass killings all over the world.

Good comparison. What shall we compare next, Mickey Mouse?

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I believe that the one thing that the world praises the western world is their understanding of cultural and religious beliefs of other people.It is greatly praised worldwide and thought of greatly.It is something that is not very common in other societies.It was the thing that really impressed people from all nations to migrate and live in western countries believing that they would be free to practice their religion and cultural beliefs with no one frowning at them.It is a highly valued quality of human beings to be able to understand why others do things that you dont practice.A person who is well educated understands that people are different and beliefs are not something a person can change just because of the people living with them.I think this poor girl has the right to refuse to handle pork but her fellow workers should be understanding so as to help her in case she needs their help.Customers should be treated well and with respect which I might assume she did because of the fact that she immediately called for help, and another employee rang up the pizza and placed it in the basket.With the other customer who she requested him to swipe his bacon groceries because of her religious beliefs,if she only requested him to swipe the bacon items but dealt with him in a proper respectful manner then i dont see why he was upset?She had to explain to the person why she acted the way she did.Is it because he is not aware of the religious belief or is it because he really wanted to force her to touch it??She had to explain to the person why she acted the way she did and if that was done then we know what to assume.
I suggest that people try to live together while each respccting his fellow being for what they believe in.

how about adjusting assignments so that she gets female total care patients and if male those not dependent for total care

I agree with you

I dont quiet agree to your point of view and I doubt if you really are a muslim.

If you dont want to tip Somali cab drivers its your choice and no one will tell you off but if you call that a religion then try to grow up.Religion is not what you say or decide.it has more base and ground than just saying what you want.But again keep it up if you dont want to do anything as long as you do not hurt others it is called a way of life.

Mellisa you are one great person.I believe that if there were a few more people like you out there then the world would have been a great place to live in.I really congratulate your objectiveness and common sense that so many lack.Thanks a million for a great answer.

First thought Great answer> One problem they are the cause of the h-ll but we can speak death to what
they are doing.I shake my head in disbelief in America
can the USA government see what it has done by letting them here.....they all take a VOW to kill all infeldels Listen up they are NOT talking about themselves they are talking about us the AMERICANS.
Look at it like this they cannot have what all the AMERICANS have worked for from the start of this great country SO guess what????? they will just take it from us NO a thousand times Go HOME fix your country
DON"T try to change mine

I am appalled and embarassed by the comments on this thread. I guarantee you if the situation were reversed, and it was a Catholic refusing to scan condoms because they believed in abstinence, you idiots wouldn't have an objection. Then you would say, America is the land of freedom and people have the right to believe and practice what they want. But because she is Muslim, you are all immediately against her. I guess being an American now means being an intolerant, racist bigot who is biased by the media to be brain washed against anything George W doesnt agree with. You should all be the ones sent over there to Somalia, you ignorant fools.

You're wrong there - I would be just as upset at a Catholic or whoever else not selling me condoms or the morning after pill, etc. Religion belongs at home, not in the workplace or anywhere it affects someone else negatively. BTW - I'm also what most would call a liberal, but I am concerned about Islam sometimes. But I don't think most organized religion is so great either.

The Muslimiacs promised to kill their American supporters last. You liberals and alqueda buttkissers get to live a little longer than us infidels, so you think.

"Go back to where you came from" is not so easy when you are a refugee. The Somali people here in the US were forced to flee their country. It was not a matter of choice. They were sent here, to America, the land of the free, where we are culturally tolerant. The fact that so many cultures have the potential to thrive alongside one another in this country is amazing. It is a beautiful thing. To say that one culture is not allowed is to refute all of what America stands for. Are we not a country founded by immigrants? Were not your ancestors who came in 1701 fleeing a situation of their own to find a better way? They most likely did not sacrifice their beliefs when they came to America. Why should things be different today? Arguing that this issue is one of cultural inacceptance is an innappropriate way to approach the issue. There needs to be a compromise. The Somali Muslims came to a country where there is freedom of religion. Tolerance. While it goes both ways, that is no excuse to exclude them from freedom of religion.

The Somali Muslims came to a country where there is freedom of religion. Tolerance. While it goes both ways, that is no excuse to exclude them from freedom of religion.
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First, there does not have to be compromise. They came here. They wanted freedom. They got it. Many exploit our many systems and programs only to complain. Second, nobody is excluding them from practicing their religion. We are saying no to having it shoved down our throats. Huge difference! They assimilate to us. Not the other way around. Welcome to America.

Lawsuits and bad publicity, businesses are anxious to avoid both of these areas as they both can potentially destroy years of hard work to achieve the clientele so hard fought for.

Please...Christians have more rights in this country than any other nation. Get a life. Touch Pork...Give the pill...worry about bigger issues.

I was dismayed to see that Target validated the issue of Muslims not handling pork by assigning them other jobs. I think that all Christian Target employees should ask that they not work on Sunday for religious reasons, and all Jewish employees should do the same for Saturday. We have to take the considerations of ALL religions into play if we do one.

Matt,
Because people think differently than you doesn't mean they are xenophobes. It is always easier to call names than it is to have an intelligent conversation.
I have spent my entire life living in different cultures and am not a xenophobe...but I don't think it is a matter of "courtesy" like holding a door open for a woman... to scan groceries at a target because a muslim doesn't want to touch pork.
Give us a break..try that with any other religion..especially Christianity and that employee would be history. If her religion forbids her to touch pork.. okay, follow your reliigion but for GOd's sake dont' work at a store that sells pork and ask them to change everything for you.

what someone chooses to eat (pork, beef or vegeterian) is hardly the point.. even less so what Jesus ate! if she works at the store that sells pork than sell pork.. who cares what you think about pork? or she thinks or muslims, about pork? You don't like pork fine.... that is your call.. but many (like most of Europe) eat pork everyday and think comments like yours are not only intolerant but moronic. and its always easier to attack a person or accuse them of whining than actully thinking and responding...

all meat is a cadaver, a corpse, a daed body

it's not a good idea to touch any of it

John Harvey Kellogg MD said
the colon bacteria (ecoli) multiply by the billions
in meat within a few hours after slaughter

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Is christinity the only religion in this world, i dont think so, there are many religions, beliefs. So, the brain that god has given you to use it to gain knowledge, so why dont you use your brain a little and i dont think it will take much of your time, it is about you own understanding and intelligence to open ur mind about other cultures and religions, because you are talking about a religion that everyone knows, and also it has a history with christinity and i am sure without this religion of Islam or Middle East countries you westerns wouldnt be here that you are now, i think before insulting a religion you should go study history, and understand, how much you westerns or americans has got knowledge from us, due to maths, Alegebra, which is an arabic name, and this Austrlia of you wouldnt even be developend if the Afghan Muslims would come here to make your Ghan rail way. So come on, before opening ur mouth which is easy to say watever, a little use ur brain which can take ur time, but at least wont ruin ur reputation, because right now i think, ur dumb. am sorry!!!! that is why people say think before speaking.

I think the problem is that the Somalis are lonely since they don't have fellow Africans to hang out with. What we should do is bring in Ethiopians (preferably those trained by our armed forces) and let them set up neighborhoods right next to these poor Somalis. I'm sure the peace loving and non-racist Somalis would LOVE that. I'm sure braindead OsamaBill couldn't deny a call for added diversity.

BTW, did anyone see this little gem?

"Ever heard of Darfur? Rawanda? How many were killed in these genocide's and nary an atrocity was committed by a Muslim. But that does not matter to you."

Nary an atrocity was committed by a Muslim at Darfur? So I guess no atrocities are happening there because the only one's being reported are Arab Muslims burning the villages of black Muslims and Christians. The great Islamic government let's the great peace loving Muslim warriors go into villages of innocent people and burn, rape and pillage. And our great college-know-it-all hippies haven't a clue about what is really going on because the bumper sticker didn't really have that much info on it. Hey, when the man behind you draws the knife and starts to saw your head off, please think of me and all the other 'racists' and 'bigots' here.

Yes, this is intolerance, on the part of the muslim cashier. Intolerance of the american way of life.

For a comparable situation... Since when has it been acceptable for a christian to refuse to work on sunday? You would quickly find yourself fired and replaced by someone who will work on sunday. This is exactly what should happen too.

Oh and about the racism charge above... When will people stop equating muslim wth race??? Islam is NOT a race! This is about as stupid as someone callng a person who is anti-christian a racist. Absurd!

Agreed. If they are unwilling to do the job they should be fired on the spot. I, as a customer, also have the right to fire the employer that fils to give me the service tht I am paying for - TARGET - YOU'RE FIRED! I have no further use of your services and my displeasure will be shared with anyone asking about your credentials...

I think a bacon fence around the country is funny. Let's start thawing out the beacon strips.

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If the job description of a cashier is to scan all the items of a customer and the applicant refuses to scan certain items that contain pork, whatever the reason may be, they are simply not qualified to do the job so they should not be offered the job. Why do Target or any other grocery store in that respect even offers a job as a cashier to these people who refuse to handle pork? Clearly these people are NOT qualified to do the job.

This is not a discrimination. If the applicant does not have the right qualifications they should not be hired.

Also she is not touching the Pork, she is touching the card board package.
So many items in a supermarket has hidden things in the food.

ljaz good point, and with the pharmacists who wouldn't prescript the morning after pill is worse they probably filled more prescriptions then they cared for most likely spoke about customers with other members of their family/friends of the same religion and were suggested to stop filling them. As a pharmacist I think they are even in more a position to put religion on the side fill the prescription drugs, if you don't mind having your license revoked and having to go find another job after going to college to become a pharmacist then fine otherwise don't involve your religion and your work. Working at target is not really a career and there are plenty of other jobs out there, go try pepp boys and stack tires all day.

i guess i am too late to defend muslims from the muslim hater gether here with a nonsence comments.shame on u all.

You must be some religious recist!
So what?! big deal she couldn't handle to take some grocery into the scanner!
same goes for the jews you know?
jews and muslims and perhaps other religions probably can't handle that! so stop with that crap!
I am not racist and I don't mind if a religous person tells me they can't handle pork, It's cool. get some life and get over being racist because most of the people today aren't racist even though they don't say it in your face!
but this kind of crap isn't something anyone can handle. wanna be a reporter? get the clue and stop reporting racist news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you really feel this way why don't you do something about it? instead of being anonymous? it seems like you are waiting for the crowd to cheer upon your discovery of Muslims takin over the America's rules?!
do you know what the heck statues of Liberty means?
America is supposed to be Cultures place. America is a place where many different backgrounds are combined, and where religion is part of it. There are muslims among your families who reverted to Islam, if you're saying that Muslims have to go back to thier countries what you don't know is you are sending your families, your friend's fmailies or friends, and the people close to you. so the shut the crap up and grow up already. Islam is Culture, religion, and Peace amd not only these but they are Americans, british, and australians. So please use your brain and get some sense, if Muslims can't handle taxy driving and pork it's not different from what you can't handle!!!!!!!
I can't hadnle heights,eating foods that upset my stomech, and I can't handle smoke! So if I'm smart enough I won't be doing any of these, Just as I am already not doing it!!!!!!!!!so get over your racist posts and move onto something important!

Well for all I know there is not many christians that are religious and when I speak religious I mean STRICTLY religious. So when you see Muslims not handle pork or drive an alcoholic, it's "Sorry, I'm strictly religious (Find another cap) or (Sorry I can't handle prok i'm STRICTLY religious" so please AMERICAN PEOPLE stop with this,"It's unfair" childish games! you are embarrasing us!!!

"These Muslims at Targert and at the airport need to be put on a plane and sent back to wherever they came from...If they can't adapt to our way of life they dont' need to be here."
Who said anything about people not being meant to be here?! they are born here, they grew up here, and they like you had converted so what the heck is wrong with you?!
they want the job because of thier family. you don't know what they're going through, you have no idea. I have seen these people suffer because of bills and...etc. so speak for yourself, I know how hard it be for them to work so much harder, don't try to depart them because of their religious beliefs because they are just like you and they are trying to fit in but fitting in doesn't mean dropping thier religion. they came here because it mean FREEDOM, FREEDOM means you do whatever you desire, they desire not to work with PORK then that's thier choice. Target allows them so, then that's that! if you have a problem deal with it don't COMPLAIN!

That person is wrong she should handel porks just as any other food , coz islam never said not to handel pork, Islam only ordered us not to eat So she misunderstood some important info. as many other ppl. do.