Happy (Belated) Birthday, Nicollet Mall

 Forgot to mention this yesterday: it was the 31st anniversary of one of the largest and most influential failures in modern urban planning.

Just kidding. I would be torn apart by harpies for heresy if I meant it; the Mall is given credit for saving downtown, or at least preventing a steep decline in the 60s and 70s. But it didn’t save retail. Downtown retail was beyond saving. The Mall kept Nicollet from looking as junky as Hennepin, perhaps; it gave downtown a certain futuristic oh-so-Euro appeal. But retail left anyway. The skyways saved downtown, not the Mall.

But it’s still around, and it looks good. The northeast end is a ghost town, alas – it never recovered from the demolition of the Gateway, and the buildings that went up in the urban renewal program didn’t last. Powers department store was razed, which seemed almost vindictive. Oh, so you can’t stay in business? Well, take this. Otherwise it’s holding up well.

Most of the imitators didn’t work. Even Fargo tried a pedestrian mall, an ill-starred three-block mistake that looked like a demonstration project by Soviet concrete company. All over the country,  towns reacted to the loss of downtown retail by squandering their advantages:   they razed whatever they could to accommodate cars for parking, and “modernized” their downtown buildings by smothering the lower floors of every building with blank sheets of stone.

Denver’s downtown is one of the exceptions; as I discovered last summer, it has a mall that makes ours look charmless and abandoned.  Pedestrian malls can work, I suppose, but the days of I-scale downtown versions are probably gone. We’re told now that two-way streets given pedestrians a sense of safety and vitality. All that congestion and contrary motion. Just like it was 50 years ago, in other words.

It’s difficult to untangle, and there weren’t any good answers. Skyways may have saved downtown, but they killed ground-floor retail – which was leaving anyway. And let’s not forget bad bunker architecture. They took away this . . .

 

And built this.

Take away the green leaves and the Farmer’s Market – in other words, imagine it the way it looks  half the year – and it’s worse. Here's what the entire block looked like:

 

That's a city.

Just kidding. I would be torn apart by harpies for heresy if I meant it; the Mall is given credit for saving downtown, or at least preventing a steep decline in the 60s and 70s. But it didn’t save retail. Downtown retail was beyond saving. The Mall kept Nicollet from looking as junky as Hennepin, perhaps; it gave downtown a certain futuristic oh-so-Euro appeal. But retail left anyway. The skyways saved downtown, not the Mall.

But it’s still around, and it looks good. The northeast end is a ghost town, alas – it never recovered from the demolition of the Gateway, and the buildings that went up in the urban renewal program didn’t last. Powers department store was razed, which seemed almost vindictive. Oh, so you can’t stay in business? Well, take this. Otherwise it’s holding up well.

Most of the imitators didn’t work. Even Fargo tried a pedestrian mall, an ill-starred three-block mistake that looked like a demonstration project by Soviet concrete company. All over the country,  towns reacted to the loss of downtown retail by squandering their advantages:   they razed whatever they could to accommodate cars for parking, and “modernized” their downtown buildings by smothering the lower floors of every building with blank sheets of stone.

Denver’s downtown is one of the exceptions; as I discovered last summer, it has a mall that makes ours look charmless and abandoned.  Pedestrian malls can work, I suppose, but the days of I-scale downtown versions are probably gone. We’re told now that two-way streets given pedestrians a sense of safety and vitality. All that congestion and contrary motion. Just like it was 50 years ago, in other words.

It’s difficult to untangle, and there weren’t any good answers. Skyways may have saved downtown, but they killed ground-floor retail – which was leaving anyway. And let’s not forget bad bunker architecture. They took away this . . .

 

And built this.

Take away the green leaves and the Farmer’s Market – in other words, imagine it the way it is half the year – and it’s worse. Here's what the entire block looked like:

 


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Whoa

Either I'm really high on something right now or that's a sweet double post!


Forgetfulness

Speaking of forgetting things yesterday, where's the solution to the third Lance?

What's your story, Lileks?


Deja Vu

Haven't I read this before?


Deja Vu

Haven't I read this before?


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No, no, it's all on purpose

I refuse to believe there was any double post. I consider it an incredibly subtle subtextual comment on the repetitive sameness of contemporary urban city planning.

But I still want that Lance #3 solution from yesterday, blast it.


He's just checking to see if anyone's paying attention.

Most people only read about half the post anyway. So by doing it twice, they get the whole thing before they realize they are halfway through and quit.

Or something like that.


Double your enjoyment

Never got the answer to yesterday's Lance #3 and we never got the answer to the oboe mystery from 2 weeks ago. But he has enough time to double post.


Whoa

I haven't been that confused since Doris got razzed.

(Someone had to say it... : D)

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got got to to be be more more creative creative

in in double double posting posting.

is there an echo in here, or what?

what?

what?

what?

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if this is a new economy, how come everybody wants my old-fashioned money?


I'm Seeing Double!

But I ain't seein' no Official Solution! Lance Lileks should be busted to traffic cop, reporting to Tiny!


Downtown, where all the lights are bright

Okay, I know, I should have posted this ten hours ago, but I’m feeling grouchy right now.

I think skyways and the Mall provided downtown Mpls. some life-support for awhile, but didn’t save it. In the 70s you could shop at Dayton’s, Donaldson’s, Powers, J.C. Penney, Young-Quinlan (no skyway, but close), Thomas & Grayston, Woolworth’s and so on with a few escalator rides. There was Downtown People’s Night! Skyway News! Folks “knew” each other, i.e., faces were familiar. After 6PM you came back and parked next to the night spot or store you were visiting, or you dallied after work.

The skyways and second level corridors are now paths to quick eats and coffee, banking, etc., then back to the office. The downtown persona (and ground-floor retail) died when it started costing $17 to park for a couple hours, chain food and retail stores blew out the independents and unpleasantness occurred more often in the larger courtyard buildings. Then came the Ugly Facade With Nowhere To Enter structures. I’m betting most downtown workers can’t wait to get out of the ramp and head home.

I'm good now, thanks, but WHERE IS that official solution?


_@_v - over here in snaileyville

they did one of those pedestrian mall thingies sometime in the early 80s...

took this tiny one-way street and put down the usual paving blocks and concrete drum fixtures... and viola...

it helped that there was parking behind the buildings because those blocks were sacrificed... still does reasonably good business.


Mall is a lot older than 31...

I think you meant to say 41 years. Lady Bird Johnson and Muriel Humphrey opened it. I think that would have been 1967.

Honestly, though, it didn't follow from building the Mall that they had to put up monstrosities like City Center. A lot of what has been built is more appealing, like Gaviidae Common. You ought not judge the whole Mall by the block you featured. I happen to like the IDS Center better than what was there before (though I've only experienced the old site through photos, including lileks.com.)

What also competed with the Mall was the skyway system. As it grew, a lot of retailers had to choose between street frontage and skyway frontage and most chose skyway. That is an important reason for there being much less retail on the Mall nowadays. When you look at those old downtown photos from the late 19th and early 20th centuries, some of those businesses -- dry cleaners, cigar stores, convenience marts -- and their modern-day successors are still downtown; they're just up on the second level.

The greatest tribute to the Mall is not that it has been copied in nearly every other urban center in North America; it is that it was extended four more blocks to Grant Street about 1981.


The Snaileyville Symphony?

took this tiny one-way street and put down the usual paving blocks and concrete drum fixtures... and viola...

Concrete drums and viola? Sounds like a really odd ensemble; I bet it's hard to write music for... ;-)


_@_v - the concrete drums come in handy...

for when that pesty mr b-natural shows up...


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