Met Council Transportation Survey Released. No, really, this is interesting

The people have been polled, and if you’ve ever been polled, you know how painful that can be. (Note: this was very funny 26 years ago when David Letterman said it. Trust me.) The most pressing concern in the Metro area is transportation. Crime is a close second. The Chairman of the Met Council has the answer:

"Bell touted progress on the North Star rail line to link outlying northern suburbs with downtown Minneapolis.

"He also touted the expansion of the Hiawatha light rail to the new Twins ball park and construction of the Central Corridor LRT between the downtowns of Minneapolis and St. Paul. In addition, he highlighted bus line developments made possible by a $133 million federal grant.

"Bell received enthusiastic applause from the audience of elected officials, municipal employees, residents and other stakeholders when he indicated that the Central Corridor LRT was his 'No. 1 priority.'"

That’s the light-rail line between downtown Minneapolis and downtown St. Paul. You might want to get out a map and reacquaint yourself with the size of the Twin Cities and the extensive network of these flat, grayish strips of hard surface we call roads. I suspect that people’s frustrations over “transportation” does not begin and end with the lack of a sleek noiseless ride between the core city downtowns, but the fact that aged roads leading and from the places people live are stacked and packed every rush hour. But roads are in poor odor these days, and if a public official held up the survey results and said “We hear you! More roads on the way, friends” some people would expect him to saw baby seals in half as a follow-up act.

Okay, let’s be fair. It does make sense as an immediate priority if you’re talking about securing Federal funds, and if you regard the link as an essential part of the inevitable commuter rail system that will link St. Cloud to Dututh to Winona some day. Not building the Central Corridor would be like building the Interstate without the I-94 trench between St. Paul and Mpls. But if you’re sitting on an antiquated potholed road thronged with cars heading out to a growing exurb, you might wonder why it’s Priority Number One.

The actual wording of the survey found that people were mad-as-hell about "traffic congestion, road conditions, limited transit options and other transportation challenges." Here’s a pdf of the survey. It notes that people are “very likely” to try alternatives to commuting in the future– and that’s nice, but nothing’s stopping them now. It also posits an additional million residents in the Metro region by 2030. Obviously, public transit has to increase to meet the needs; as this story points out, people who want to take the bus from the burbs are being stymied by the lack of park-and-ride lots. But the survey ranked the Metro Transit bus system as a program less important than wastewater treatment. And light-rail was second from the bottom of important Council programs.

People are all over the map, in other words. Literally. That’s what makes this so difficult.


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Polls

I remember when we first moved here (near Omaha) I got a phone call from a pollster (if I knew who it was, I have forgotten). The questions were pretty clearly intended to elicit the opinion that the worst problem facing Omaha was crime. (Then and now, that is not the worst thing, the police might be strong candidates but the truth is pot holes are the worst....but I digress.)

The "pollster" finally asked I thought the worst thing about Omaha was. This being 1991 or there abouts, and I having moved here in the winter of 1989-1990, I said "Winter". He then said (in terminal exasperation) "what was the second worst thing about Omaha?" to which the obvious answer was "Summer". (We have a heat-humidity-bugs thing here, too.)


Bizarre

What's with the constant anti-LRT rhetoric on here, Mr. Lileks? Of course I'm exaggerating a bit, but I feel as though you have some sort of grudge against public transit. Did someone scowl at you on a bus once?

In all seriousness, I just got back from a trip to Tallinn, Estonia, a city that is a fraction of the size of the metro area and yet has a far more comprehensive bus and tram network. It's pitiful that the Twin Cities continually fail to address the congestion problems everyone faces.

Expanding LRT, commuter rail, and BRT is good for anyone who commutes in the metro. That person stuck on a highway outside of the downtowns will benefit plenty from the Central Corridor (freed up bus resources, increased profile of transit, generally less cars on the road), and if we weren't so stupid about it, commuter and light rail, as well as BRT, to the 'burbs (SW Corridor and others) would help those roads just as much.

If people can't grasp the basic concept here (better transit = shorter commute for everyone), try to at least consider the economic and environmental impacts involved. More development means more tax revenue, and more transit means less pollution. Can it be dumbed down any more than that?

Get out of your cars and get on the bandwagon. The rest of the developed world has already figured this out.

Even Estonia.


Nothing stops you from...

Yeah, nothing stops people from using a crappy bus system
that has service every few days on a ride that is rougher than
a train box car.

Just like nothing prevents you from buying an asphalt truck and
filling the potholes yourself.

You are a moron.


Not for everyone.

Anders,

Expanding LRT/BRT/rail/transit/etc is good for those who work downtown, as those lines actually worthwhile radiate out from downtown.

But it doesn't help those who work outside of downtown. And last I checked, that was a majority of metro-area workers.

Road improvements still need to be part of the picture.


C'mon anonymous it doesn't

C'mon anonymous it doesn't get us transit advocates anywhere to call Mr. Lileks a moron. How could a moron have one of the coolest websites in Minnesota?

Mr. Lileks, why not have a good network of transportation options? Part of the barrier to the current transit network is how goddarn complex it is to use. There are multiple lines hitting the same area, with multiple branches. In order to serve everyone, Metro Transit has ended up making the system too confusing to use. Part of the reason why LRT has been so successful is because it's easy to use: You know where the tracks go, and you know you won't wait long for a train.


Estonia a model of mass transit

Yeah, Estonia is a great model for mass transit. At first I thought this was some sort of joke. Now I understand that you have zero common sense.

Pull you head out of your butt!


Re: Bizarre

"I just got back from a trip to Tallinn, Estonia, a city that is a fraction of the size of the metro area and yet has a far more comprehensive bus and tram network."

There you go. Density is the key. We're not dense. I support commuter rail to the outlying burbs, but LRT simply seems like too much money for a fixed system. The debate over the Central Corridor line is a perfect example - there's no room for the train, so they're debating whether to sink the line in a tunnel for $200 million.

You could buy a dandy bus system for $200 million. And it wouldn't require ripping up miles of streets, putting down tracks, and stringing ugvly powerlines overhead. I doubt a train down University will have an impact on congestion on 394, and "Increased profile of transit" seems a rather nebulous rationale for the expenditure.

I might get out of the car and get on the bandwagon if the bandwagon went where I needed to go. But it doesn't, and it can't. (Lest you suspect I'm driving a Canyonero to and from Minnetonka, I live in the city and use about a tank a week.)


Want to know why not light rail?

Look at Portland, OR - every time they make it larger it just loses more money.

And has fewer riders (their accounting system for that beats the film business for arcane) than when it started, if I've read the reports correctly.


The same tired promise of bus money that never happens.

I only hear the "$200 million for a bus system on the
roads already here" when the question of rail funding comes up.

And when the rail is not funded we get Pawlenty's bus
fare increases, cutbacks in service and a bus strike
because no money went into the bus system.

So why don't you pony up and call for a gas tax increase. Otherwise shut your piehole, pal, that "$200 million"
promise has been used over and over and over,
never seen the bus money, never will.


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