Good Morning: Friday, July 06

Friday! Finally. We thought it would never come. Let’s see what transpired on this day, so we may face the dawn with the sure and steady knowledge that our forebears met similar challenges with pluck and ingenuity.

Ho ho! On this day in 1849, Anthony Yoerg caused many a pioneer to drop to his knees and shout huzzah. As the Historical Society page puts it:

Bavarian immigrant Anthony Yoerg opens Minnesota's first brewery, located in St. Paul below what is now the River Center parking ramp.

If ever there was a name that sounded like a cautionary tale against the inevitable result of excess beer consumption, it’s “YOERG.” You okay, man? You look like you’re going to yoerg. The name survived its owner; here’s a bottle top, and here’s a cone-top bottle. It was “cave-aged,” which may have been overkill; no one ever thinks of beer as being “aged” anymore, even if Beechwood is involved, and the cave-aging makes you wonder if bat-droppings spattered the vats. But in olden times, caves were perfect for aging beer. More Yoergtastic info here, and here.

It’s interesting how many early MN beers sound like gutteral threats. YOERG. GLUEK. SCHMIDT. It’s like listening to someone cough up a Lego piece.

Many have great nostalgia for the local beers, the individually honed recipes that fell one by one to the mass-market barley-pop homogenizer Decepticons. I don’t drink the stuff myself anymore; somehow it got into the washing machine and made my pants shrink. But I was partial to a local beer called James Page, partly because the label and the box was illustrated by an immensely talented local artist named Nora Wildgen, and partly because it was just the apogee of the art, the sort of beer that beer would drink if beer drank beer. I realize it’s a little early in the day for a thread about bygone local beers, but it is Friday. Request: no beer snobs.

In other old news: <keillorvoice> It’s the birthday of the Prairie Home Companion. </keillorvoice> The first live broadcast of this Minnesota institution happened today in 1974, and buzz.mn extends its congrats to Garrison Keillor and all the folks at PHC for thirty-three years of keeping the traditions of old radio alive.

Holiday-wise: it’s National Fried Chicken Day. Well, when isn’t it? When I was a kid Dad would bring home a bucket from Chicken De-Light, which was the most amazing food we’d ever had; you’d bite, you’d chew, you’d savor the flavor – and then the next bite had actual chicken. A few later the Colonel came to town, and that was the end of Chicken De-Light. We tried KFC once or twice, but somehow everything in the bucket – the chicken, the buns, the coleslaw, the mashed potatoes – seemed to meld together into one greasy bolus, and those complimentary wetnaps were like an apology.

I’m confounded by the fact that no one in America has invented Fried Chicken Pizza. It would seem to be a rather obvious twist on a classic.

Well, I’d better google that, just to be sure . . .

I stand corrected.


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mmmm chicken

Oh wow the Fried Chicken Pizza link has a recipe!


Take your fried chickens,

Take your fried chickens, carefully fold them, and tuck them safely away until we're a REAL country again, and not a mockery of justice and peace!


Oh, I was thinking DEEP-fried...

Until you provided the link, I was thinking more of something like this.


Oh my

That makes my stomach ache just looking at it.


Double Meat

Your mention of the fried chicken pizza made me remember the Doublemeat Palace episode of Buffy (BTVS). She worked in a fast food restaurant that served a fused beef and fried chicken patty on a bun. I've often wondered why no entrepreneur has tried to market such a double meat delight.


beer

Good Morning;

Further to your discussion of the aging of beer: Anheuser-Busch has been working on the process lately, trying to perfect a cask-matured version of one of their old tried-and-true standards. They’ll be marketing it as “Older Budweiser”.

I think I made that up.


another birthday

Hey Jim,
Did you forget that today is the President's sixty first birthday? It's also Nancy Reagan's birthday but I don't know which one.


extra crispy

or even better, the episode of roseanne, when her husband came home with the bucket of fried chicken, extra crispy, no meat.


Fried Chicken Pizza?

The fried chicken pizza sounds, well, weird. Perhaps a future entrant in Gallery of Regrettable Foods, Volume 2 or 3?

I'm from the south, and yes, we love our fried chicken. And buttermilk biscuits. And gravy. But usually we have mashed potatoes to go with the gravy, or else we put the gravy on the biscuits. If you left out the cheese, it might be good. Whenever I buy one of the breakfast platters from Chick-Fil-A, I usually ask for the chicken. I cut it up into small pieces, break up the biscuit, and pour gravy on the concoction.


Odd food combo

I recently stopped at a bowling alley bar somewhere in Wisconsin and had lunch. I ordered the special, which was a cheeseburger and a bratwurst together on one bun! Delicious!!!


Speaking of old beers (and

Speaking of old beers (and their memorable commercial jingles), I drove through La Crosse yesterday and was stunned to see the name "City Brewery" on the kreusening tanks.

AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, kreusening is how they make Heileman's Old Style, which is brewed by the G. Heileman Brewing Company, La Crosse, Wisconsin, not by some generic "City Brewery." Shoot, there's a nickle-beer joint on the very next block with an Old Style sign outside.

Whoever thought of that new name ought to have a long conversation about product branding with the guy who developed New Coke.
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Chicken DeLight

I remember CD. It wasn't a free standing place like KFC or McDonald's the one we had in our California city was in a strip mall. I always thought it was just a local joint. I wouldn't have guessed it was the largest chicken outfit until KFC took over.

Then again, we used to have an H Salt Esq Fish & Chips too. They disappeared from everywhere except So Cal it seems.


Fried Chicken and Pizza

One of the weirder restuarant combos that has come out of this whole "let's combine the Yum restaurants into two eateries in one" is the KFC/Pizza Hut. Its even stranger when this results in a KFC/Pizza Hut all you can eat buffet. All the fried chicken and pizza you can wolf down!


One of the weirder

One of the weirder restuarant combos that has come out of this whole "let's combine the Yum restaurants into two eateries in one" is the KFC/Pizza Hut. Its even stranger when this results in a KFC/Pizza Hut all you can eat buffet. All the fried chicken and pizza you can wolf down!

In Ohio a few of them were combined with Taco Bell as well. We called them "Kentaco Huts".


fried chicken pizza

I thought the link was going to show Google search results for "fried chicken pizza" which would disprove the theory that nobody already thought how natural the idea is of putting the two thing together, which turns out to be 17,800.

I'm all for experimenting with food. It's not a bad idea, but needs a little work.

Maybe I'm not seeing this right but if that's corn in the sauce, well, that's just wrong. To make this at home, you'd need to fire up the oven, the deep-fat fryer, and a separate sauce pan which pretty much defeats the whole point of a pizza. It only makes sense as a left-over type thing at restaurants, or gas stations like here.


It's also Nancy Reagan's

It's also Nancy Reagan's birthday but I don't know which one.

Was it the one that was married to Ronnie?


Fried chicken pizza: dang dang dang

I joined Weight Watchers last night. Dang.


Chicken & Pizza

As I recalled, our Chicken Delight (also in a California strip mall) did sell pizza as well as chicken. Of course I was really young, mid sixties.

Remember the simple jingle? "Don't cook tonight, call Chicken Delight, we deliver"

When the KFC opened, the Chicken Delight faded away. The KFC opened next to a Shakey's Pizza in our town. Within a year, Shakey's was having all you could eat chicken and pizza nights!

(update, Mr. L posted that matchbook, while I was writing comment so, he beet me to the jingle)

(update 2, They still have Chicken Delights in Canada, wow, that is like Madagascar breaking off from Africa isolating the lemurs or Australian being a marsupial paradise)


Fried Chicken Pizza

Here in NY some of the finer pizza stands have chicken parmigiana pizza. Chicken cutlets breaded and fried, then diced and placed on a nice slice of thin crust pizza. Hmmmm- heart attack!


Puppy-less hush, that's

Puppy-less hush, that's what's needed.

Craig


Fried Pizza

I haven’t had the chicken part of fried pizza, but I have had fried pizza. Many moons ago I was in the navy and stationed at a submarine base the US had at the Holy Loch in Scotland. The town by the Holy Loch is Dunoon. Pizza from a Scottish fish & chip shop is unlike any pizza you have likely come across before.

The pizzas are personal size, almost completely pre-cooked and are stacked near the fryer cold. In most chip shops these pizza are tossed into the fat and allowed to cook for a couple of minutes. The pizzas are pulled from the fryer and served with a full serving of chips. One douses the lot with malt vinegar and digs in.

I used to frequent a fish & chip shop in Dunoon that served pizza in a slightly different way. Not only was the pizza fried, but was dipped in batter first. Somehow, after leaving the pub after downing way too many pints a fried pizza always hit the spot. My fifty year old heart seizes up just thinking about eating those fried pizza when I was in my twenties. And then there was the haggis…


KFC Bites

I haven't been to KFC in years because its horrible and expensive. For the 4th I picked up 24 pieces for $14. At KFC I think that might get you an 8 piece bucket. It's a rip off.

I probably wouldn't make the fried chicken pizza. Basically you've made fried chicken, biscuits and gravy. Make some mashed potatoes and green beans and you have a southern fried chicken meal. Who wants cheese on that?

Oh yeah. The people who insist on buying the KFC bowl, that's who (rolls eyes). Gah, corn in my mashed potatoes!

My great-grandmothers fried their chicken in lard. One of them grew up on a hog farm and ate pork everyday of her life. At the age of 90 some idiot doctor told her that she must stop using pork and lard especially. I caught her one day walking home from the market with 3 pounds of bacon and a box of manteca.

I didn't tell.


Sign Juxtaposition

The chicken/pizza sign resulted in an interesting recipe find. I once lived near a strip mall where two adjacent businesses had the same size and color signs. The result: Chiropractic Pizza. I've often wondered what sort of a meal might result.


My local Italian jernt

My local Italian jernt offers something they call "Chicken Parmigian Pizza" which, I guess, is both the same and not the same as Fried Chicken Pizza.

I grew up with Chicken De-Light, too, on Long Island. I am amazed to learn that it was a national chain. I remember the stores as being small, dark and nasty-looking. It was the only take-out we ever got delivered.

Speaking of fried chicken, IMHO the best there is can still be had at the Loveless Motel outside of Nashville.

All best.


Mmmmm

I'll have my pie with 4 fried chickens and a Coke..


double meat? Try triple

One of the national dishes of Romania is blended veal, lamb, and pork skinless sausages (some heathens descended from different provinces change the animals used but it's always a 2-3 animal meat blend). "Mititei" = "the little ones" and they are deeliiicious! If you dig, you can find them anywhere there's a decent sized urban romanian-american community and back in the old country they've started to sell spice packets with a decent mix so you just add your own ground meat and grill them up.


City Brewery

Not beer snobbery but informed consumerism...

FYI Heileman went out of business, and its labels and beers were bought up by Pabst which is a whole 'nother story of weirdness. City Brewery is the trade name of City Brewing which bought the former Heileman brewery. They make their own beers under the City and LaCrosse labels and contract brew for Sam Adams, Mikes Hard Lemonade and others.


How about Chicken-fried Bacon?

Only in Texas

on the menu at Sodolak's Original Country Inn in Snook, TX

do a search on chicken fried bacon and watch the video


No Snobbery Here!

Just lots of pictures of fine, American brew!


Cave Aged? that could be a

Cave Aged? that could be a commercial.
The best fried chicken in the world, "Go Chicken Go" Kansas City.
http://www.gochickengo.com/


Doublemeat Palace

Surely, RGiles (the "R" is for Rupert, I assume?), you recall the horrrible secret of the Doublemeat Palace. Spoiler alert - the Doublemeat Medley is actually an entirely vegetable based product.


Keeping what alive?

"The traditions of old radio," as in sniggering behind your hand at the significant part of your audience that's too dense to realise you're insulting them and their values on a weekly basis? As in casting your co-stars aside when they threaten to overshadow your ersatz earnestness and simulated sincerity, like you do your ex-wives and -lovers should they falter in their duty to cater to your all-too-real egotism?

The traditions of the Arthur Godfrey radio shows, maybe. One of the cable movie channels screened "A Face in the Crowd" a few weeks ago. I confess I keep expecting Gary Keillor to snap some day just like Andy Griffith's character does in the last real and tell his audience what he really thinks of them in the sort of terms he reserves for people who vote Republican and out gay men.

You want the traditions of old radio, take a listen to The Woodsongs Old Time Radio Hour (http://www.woodsongs.com/wotrh.html), available on podcast as well as a few area radio stations not yet utterly in the thrall of Kling the Merciless. It's what Keillor started out to be but never succeeded at and knocks spots off the greasy, creaky Powdermilk franchise.


CD

"Remember the simple jingle? "Don't cook tonight, call Chicken Delight, we deliver"

Heck, I never forgot it and I was a small kid then too. Whenever I'm in the old town I can still find where the CD was. I did notice that KFC ran CD out. The Shakey's always had all you can eat chicken and pizza. Shakey's is another place that seems to have vacated the US for overseas. It's rather big in the Philippines and Asia.


signs

"The result: Chiropractic Pizza. I've often wondered what sort of a meal might result."

It couldn't be any worse than what I saw at a gas station once: Eat Propane Ice. I believe I'll pass on that....


"You got corn in my mashed potatoes!"

"Gah, corn in my mashed potatoes!"

Nothing wrong with that. I started doing it as a kid, and I'll still do that whenever I go to Boston Market.


Speaking of old beers

"Shoot, there's a nickle-beer joint on the very next block with an Old Style sign outside."

I'll accept that there might be a bar near you that bears an ad for Old Style. I can't believe they'd pour a beer that cheap, though.


Thanks anti-Keillor..

I too despise the "smooth and smarthy" voice of Keillor along with the rest of the NPR body snatched.


Best Laugh of the Day

Kentaco Huts! Maybe it's just a slow Friday, but I brayed like a mule at that one. Thanks!


No Chicken? No Chicken Piece(s)!

How dare you sully a post about fried chicken and pizza with puerile insinuations of injustice and bellicose behavior? Have you no sense of decorum or appetite for comfort food?
I, for one, believe that we live in the greatest and best country with the greatest and best combinations of junk food the world has ever seen. We are, despite your morbid concerns, the last, best hope for mankind. Please believe me when I assert that our problems with the world and the worlds problems with us will not disappear with the election of Dennis Kucinich, or facsimile thereof.


Doublemeat Palace

Yes, yes you are correct. And yes the R is for Rupert. I had forgotten the secret ingredient. Still the spirit of the doublemeat is what I was referencing. Doublemeat goodness indeed. And very glad to meet a fellow BTVS fan.


GAH!!!!!

Nothing wrong with that. I started doing it as a kid, and I'll still do that whenever I go to Boston Market."

Gah, Boston Market!!

I'd rather have a gross lemon jello and green olive salad. I'd rather eat the worst Campbell's cream of something soup and tater tot hotdish (I'm taking my life in my hands, here of all places dissing hotdish).

Still, I'd rather go there than Chuck E. Friggin Cheese. Last time I was in there was 1999. I told my 6 year old that I'd rather shoot myself in the foot. She paused, considering ...


Fried Chicken Day - thanks a ton

Thanks so much for the notification that it's National Fried Chicken Day. We ended up going past Kowalski's on the way home and picked up a bunch of chicken and great sides (much better than KFC, by a long way).

All good, but now I'm 39 pounds heavier than I was this morning.

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Hello, Minnesota!

Thanks to everyone who stopped by. Hopefully you found our Southern hospitality to your liking.

RGiles, hello from fellow Buffy fans. We have done our best to honor (and eclipse) the doublemeat medley. I invite you to check out our triplemeat medley. For this version we used chicken, beef, and pork. To me, I thought they worked better when we made them with buffalo instead of chicken.

Cheers!


>I'll have my pie with 4

>I'll have my pie with 4 fried chickens and a Coke...>

And surely there's some white bread around, toasted, dry...


Corn & Taters

I usually get a forkful of mashed taters, then dip it in my corn, which sticks to the taters and doesn't fall all over my shirt when I try to put the bite in my mouth... Well, unless the taters are too runny.


give peas a chance

I've only ever eaten green peas with mashed potatoes. I'd pile then in the hollow I make in my potatoes then pour in some gravy and watch them drown. Delicious.

re: KFC bowls... We call those "scrape bowls" because that's what they are! In the South you collect the day's table scraps in a big bowl that sits on the counter. At night the scraps get fed to the hunting dogs. Or the pigs. Whichever is more important at the time.

Nothing grosser than a scrap bowl. Gah.
~Fae
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33 years of PHC

I listened to PHC pretty consistently years ago, in spite of Keillor's politics. I can deal with the ridicule of political leaders--they are in the spotlight after all and it comes with the territory.

However, he got so horribly strident during the election that he started dragging our troops through the mud. I was so disgusted, I tuned out for good and haven't looked back. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Sawmill gravy on a biscuit...mmmmmm. The buttermilk fried chicken is a mere side dish. :)


"... a fused beef and fried

"... a fused beef and fried chicken patty on a bun. I've often wondered why no entrepreneur has tried to market such a double meat delight..."

Because it'd taste like (*expletive deleted*)!

(*Shudders*)

Now, fused beef and bacon... mmmmmmmmm....


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